still using spay adhesive?

By the shirt guy on Feb. 09, 2012
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I started using textac and it was the best thing ive done in a long time. non toxic very little overspray, cleans up with water. and keeps your press clean. might want to try it.

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Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 09:12

you shouldnt use spray adhesives at all. waterbase tekmar tb-10 is the best on the market. roll it on with a foam roller and print for days. Its the best thing I ever did when I switched about 4 years ago. I would NEVER go back.

Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 16:08

I always run my flash, on every job and it stands up GREAT! Honestly, the hotter the pallet, the better it works. As for fleece, you would have to apply more often. And I always have to apply more often for sweats, but thats just about 3 months out of the year. The rest of the time I literally will print 3 days without applying more.

Submitted by Gilligan on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:34

jasonl wrote:
I always run my flash, on every job and it stands up GREAT! Honestly, the hotter the pallet, the better it works. As for fleece, you would have to apply more often. And I always have to apply more often for sweats, but thats just about 3 months out of the year. The rest of the time I literally will print 3 days without applying more.

What this guys says.

I haven't run a PFP job in a while (lucky me) so my flash isn't even hooked up since I moved my press. I often wish it was because flashing helps "activate" the tackiness of textac. If I could warm up my platen a bit it would save me from reapplying sometimes.

I've never used spray, I saw how filthy my buddy's shop was and read how good textac was and never gave it a second though.

I took an empty water bottle and cut it 50/50 and I pour a little bit out and use a foam brush and brush it all around.

I don't print very often so dust and such settle on the platens and it looses its tact. I take a rag or wet it and pile up the lint and pull it off the platen and it's good to go... if not like they said it takes just a drop to get the platen ready. I've only had to retack up when running some fleece stuff. I might have only scraped the platen clean to retack... I can't rememeber.

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Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:46

I hope everyone is using pallet tape. If not, you should be. Its a time saver and it protects your pallets from the flash, warping, burning, etc. When they get to dirty, tear it off and put on new and apply glue. That simple.

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Submitted by The Bumper on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 16:28

Prosperi-Tees wrote:
do you clean off the lint buildup after a run?

You can. We use a scotch brite pad and some water after printing fleece. Then it's a clean surface and re-constitutes the tack.

Years ago, we started rolling it on as well. We dilute the glue 50 percent.

Give it a shot, you'll be stoked!

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Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:06

i never dilute it, but i might should try. Honestly, it lasts so long that i wouldnt want to compromise how it works. 1 gallon bucket will last over a year. And you dont have to try and clean the pallets after runs. Some say you can wet them with a wet sponge and it reactivates the glue, but I am not a fan of that. Its so easy to just roll it on again and you are not wasting it because it lasts forever. IMPORTANT thing to remember. YOU MUST DRY THE GLUE WITH YOUR FLASH BEFORE LOADING SHIRTS! I was used to Hot tak when I first used tekmar tb-10 and I loaded shirts with wet pallets and was wondering why it didnt work. Stupid right! Don't do that.

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:13

I have a small bottle of CCI adhesive that's been laying around awhile while I used up by stock of spray tack. I'm gonna put it to use this week. So is the foam roller the best way to apply it?

I do use newman pallet tape and was wondering since that stuff is expensive has anyone used transfer tape for signs? Seems like the same stuff.

Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 22:00

Prosperi-Tees wrote:
I have a small bottle of CCI adhesive that's been laying around awhile while I used up by stock of spray tack. I'm gonna put it to use this week. So is the foam roller the best way to apply it?

I do use newman pallet tape and was wondering since that stuff is expensive has anyone used transfer tape for signs? Seems like the same stuff.

Get a foam roller i think mine is 6 inches. also get a 5 gallon bucket with a lid. Pour your adhesive in the bucket, dip your roller and roll on. After you are finished, leave the roller handle and all in the 5 gallon bucket with the lid on. Easy to get to when you need it and it keeps the foam roller wet at all times.

Submitted by jasonl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 22:02

Prosperi-Tees wrote:
I have a small bottle of CCI adhesive that's been laying around awhile while I used up by stock of spray tack. I'm gonna put it to use this week. So is the foam roller the best way to apply it?

I do use newman pallet tape and was wondering since that stuff is expensive has anyone used transfer tape for signs? Seems like the same stuff.

Get a foam roller i think mine is 6 inches. also get a 5 gallon bucket with a lid. Pour your adhesive in the bucket, dip your roller and roll on. After you are finished, leave the roller handle and all in the 5 gallon bucket with the lid on. Easy to get to when you need it and it keeps the foam roller wet at all times.

Don't bother with the carding it around the pallet way, it sux. Foam roller will change your life.

Submitted by Gilligan on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:52

That's what my stuff is... I think Reece supply has it cheaper than application tape. So I'll be using "pallet tape" as application tape from now on actually.

As far as applying it, some people card it on.. the guy I bought my press from would put two stripes from a squirt bottle... on on the edge and one down the middle and then use a credit card to smear it across from one edge across the middle to the other. I use a foam brush because it's what I had laying around. I've heard several people suggest the foam roller.

It really isn't that difficult to work with... you can't really go wrong. Just start small and work your way up. ;)

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Submitted by Binkspot on Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:23

Dilute it a little and spread with a scotch brite pad with a handle like Bumper said earlier. This will also keep some of the lint from building up. I pour it into old 20oz coke bottles, poke a small hole in the top and squirt a stripe or two on the pallet. If the bottle becomes sticky just toss it in the trash.

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