Brown?

By Prosperi-Tees on Apr. 04, 2012
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I know big shops don't run them but they always intrigued me, not to mention the Harpolds are awesome people. They are on my top 3 brands to look at when upgrading. I like the idea of a quiet shop and not needing air lines, chiller, water contamination etc etc. What I don't like is the lack of quick release squeegees and floodbars and the lack of pneumatic screen clamps. Other than that I don't see much else that would be a downfall. They have their own reg systems with lasers, not sure how it works and software that allows you to program kinda like the revolver program of MnR.

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Submitted by TheGang on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 08:28

screenmachines wrote:
Really?

Yes, really, the M&R patent does not cover presets or preprogrammed machine functions, it only addresses user entered data stored, if the software is fixed in the press then M&R can pound salt :eek:

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 22:45

I agree Jake. If they could figure a way to get auto screen clamps on there it would be awesome. I hate Browns vids, I wish they would talk and not have the dumb music lol.

Submitted by Gilligan on Wed, 04/18/2012 - 01:11

I bet they could be modified to take pneumatic screen clamps.

Maybe someone like Winston could make that happen for you... hell, maybe Brown would do it. Wouldn't take much air to run the clamps... jeff was doing it with just a refillable tank.

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Wed, 04/18/2012 - 01:35

Exactly but I think Brown cringes at the thought of air. It would kill the whole idea of plug and play, well not really but sorta

Submitted by Gilligan on Wed, 04/18/2012 - 02:13

Tell them no air clamps kills the idea of having a Brown in your shop. :p

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Sat, 04/21/2012 - 12:50

Thanks to Ojai Imprints for the phone call and the invite!

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 11:24

I just looked on the Brown website and it says quick release squeegees and floodbars, tool less, nice!

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Mon, 04/16/2012 - 23:06

Does anyone know what the max print size is on the Brown electraprint Sr and Jr machines? It doesn't state on the website.

Submitted by Sparkie on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 08:20

I have a Jr. and 15" is the max for me. You can probably get 16 if you don't need much squeegee angle.

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Wed, 04/18/2012 - 13:10

Lol I just thought they would come up with some sort of electrically actuated clamp. Seems logical but Im not an engineer.

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Submitted by GraphicDisorder on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 13:06

Brown are great people, we almost bought a Brown when we ended up going with a larger manual. But great people, easy to work with, kind, and nothing shady about them.

If you are stuck with wanting electric I would say go for it.

But I do think you'd be happier in several other presses if your budget fit it.

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 13:15

I do like the electric and like you said the Harpold family/company are just damn good people. People like that you want to support.

Submitted by Gilligan on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 10:11

Sparkie wrote:
You can probably get 16 if you don't need much squeegee angle.

I'm gonna guess that is length because angle wouldn't affect the width. :p

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

Submitted by Gilligan on Wed, 04/18/2012 - 16:11

You COULD do an electro-magnetically driven solenoid but I don't think you would want to.

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 11:12

Ha I just woke up and didn't think of that one! Lol

Submitted by Sparkie on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 11:45

Correct, that is length. For width, it has a 15" wide squeegee.

Submitted by Slaywood on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 16:57

The Brown ElectraPrint is at the top of my list when I upgrade. I have done the research and for what I need Brown is the perfect choice. Steve is a great guy and even stopped by my shop in NC when he was coming through. There is another local printer that has one and his work is great.

Submitted by Gilligan on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 17:39

My buddy has/had a semi from them. When he went full auto with more colors he stayed with brown.

That says a lot right there.

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

Submitted by Gilligan on Wed, 04/04/2012 - 23:52

lasers aren't for the reg system, that's for garment loading (I think).

"you don't need a hook for the worms to dance."

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Submitted by Prosperi-Tees on Wed, 04/04/2012 - 23:59

I just checked their website and its a 3 point led. Which I think would be 3 point registration.

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Submitted by GraphicDisorder on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 19:21

It's clear to me that companies like that sell machines because they build exactly what they say they will build and it works exactly like they say it will and they support it exactly like they say they will.

All of that is CRITICAL to do business and grow business. It's less about what you are selling, than how you are selling it. Some day others will learn that. Kudos to Brown there.

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Submitted by californiadreamin on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 19:27

GraphicDisorder wrote:
It's clear to me that companies like that sell machines because they build exactly what they say they will build and it works exactly like they say it will and they support it exactly like they say they will.

All of that is CRITICAL to do business and grow business. It's less about what you are selling, than how you are selling it. Some day others will learn that. Kudos to Brown there.

Good Advice!!!

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Submitted by nation03 on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 22:23

Gerry, I believe they have a video of the registration system. I actually really like the FPU. No carrier sheets needed, like MHM. It comes with a right angle that mounts to the pallet and flips up when you need to register the screen. Looks like it would work fairly well. But the manual clamps kill it for me. I'm pretty sure the SR prints 16x18. For the money, I'd rather get a Diamondback S with a rotary compressor. I'm sure that would still be a quiet setup.

I feel like the Brown definitely fills a certain niche, but I feel like the setups/tear downs would take up too much time though.

-Jake Damis

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Submitted by screenmachines on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 07:59

Prosperi-Tees wrote:
I know big shops don't run them but they always intrigued me, not to mention the Harpolds are awesome people. They are on my top 3 brands to look at when upgrading. I like the idea of a quiet shop and not needing air lines, chiller, water contamination etc etc. What I don't like is the lack of quick release squeegees and floodbars and the lack of pneumatic screen clamps. Other than that I don't see much else that would be a downfall. They have their own reg systems with lasers, not sure how it works and software that allows you to program kinda like the revolver program of MnR.

Really?

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