Sroque News Flash

Just got done talking to someone connected with Sroque and guess what Barnes has zero involvement with the company ZERO!

They are aware of Roberts lies as well and the press sold to Metro in New Hampshire is also aware of Roberts lies.

The pitiful man he is cannot stand the fact a company he once visited wants nothing to do with him so he implies differently.

How can this man ever be trusted by anyone how?

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At first I thought this was some sort of new flash unit made by Sroque lol I got excited!

Robert Barnes of Mustang Printers lying again!

Why do you think he's doing it? To drive away sales from SRoque? Very unethical and probably illegal.

I wonder how CustomizedPrintables will defend Barnes this time.

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Just another claim that is not the truth, I wonder how many there have been over the past week alone.

Sherman doesn't believe this....Bobby would never lie about anything! Never!!
He is just a victim in a deceitful plot led by 244 and the Blue Nation.

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Lets just hope is false claims does not damage in sales in this country. I know the guys over at Tech do not deserve to have an idiot like Barnes effect their business.

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Gerry would like to learn more about the press features and what makes them different than the rest.

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If there were any people out there that were still on the fence about whether or not Robert was a straight shooter, hopefully this will help clear their minds on that issue. He even went so far as to post some paperwork with signatures to convince people. I know there will still be people out there that think everyone is out to get the guy, but there is no way someone would get this much heat from so many people if there wasn't a reason for it.

I would suggest people looking for an alternitve to M&R as I know there is a few out there why deal with Mustang and Robert check out the Sroque it sounds like it has as much bang for the buck as the Mustang. Minus some bells and whistle that are nice but not necessary.

Not a dig on M&R at all I just know some people like alternatives and i would rather see people researching Srouque instead of anything Barnes has his fingers in.

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I guess over all I have a negative opinion of most overseas press manufactures. We have seen it play out right here on this site exactly worst case and we see the Mike and Jeff have no real ability to get the press corrected or in Jeff's case even delivered without either suing them. I feel like that is at the least a indication of how easy it is for an overseas manufacture to do as they like without any real recourse.

Now that doesn't mean they all would or do walk away from their customers. That isn't what I am saying. I am firmly saying it seems really easy for them to do it though if they so choose.

I wish all of them luck though, I like that there is FRIENDLY competition contrary to RWB's belief.

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Good thing about this overseas manufacturer, there seems to be a distributor here that isn't hiding behind a shell company and might actually put their name and signatures on the sales contract. I guess there is a possibility that if someone had an issue it might fall on deaf ears like what we've seen with our good friend and enemy Roberto, but something tells me it won't. I wonder if our Portuguese friends understand the need to have ALL parts readily accessible within a day's reach?

srimonogramming wrote:
Good thing about this overseas manufacturer, there seems to be a distributor here that isn't hiding behind a shell company and might actually put their name and signatures on the sales contract. I guess there is a possibility that if someone had an issue it might fall on deaf ears like what we've seen with our good friend and enemy Roberto, but something tells me it won't. I wonder if our Portuguese friends understand the need to have ALL parts readily accessible within a day's reach?
one of the advantages of buying equipment from here is the presses are US standard fittings ,hoses, cylinders, etc. if this is not inportant and not an issue waiting on parts occasionaly we could easily sell presses from our plant in Poland at lower prices. The service would also be comprimized as our techs here are not set up to support metric machines. Definitely the prices would be lower but at the price of immediate service and parts. Thoughts?
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244 wrote:
one of the advantages of buying equipment from here is the presses are US standard fittings ,hoses, cylinders, etc. if this is not inportant and not an issue waiting on parts occasionaly we could easily sell presses from our plant in Poland at lower prices. The service would also be comprimized as our techs here are not set up to support metric machines. Definitely the prices would be lower but at the price of immediate service and parts. Thoughts?

I will take my parts when I need them, not later. I will take my service when I need it, not later. I will pay a higher price for better service/support. I will pay a higher price for a press with higher resale. I will pay a higher price for a press with USA manufacturing backing it. I will keep jobs in the USA when I can.

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244 wrote:
one of the advantages of buying equipment from here is the presses are US standard fittings ,hoses, cylinders, etc. if this is not inportant and not an issue waiting on parts occasionaly we could easily sell presses from our plant in Poland at lower prices. The service would also be comprimized as our techs here are not set up to support metric machines. Definitely the prices would be lower but at the price of immediate service and parts. Thoughts?

As seldom as we have needed parts on our M&R equipment, I don't see that as a real issue. As long as phone support from the tech dept doesn't change, I see no problems. It might be something to consider. I'm sure you guys can tell which parts should be readily available and which parts would require a wait.

GraphicDisorder wrote:
I will take my parts when I need them, not later. I will take my service when I need it, not later. I will pay a higher price for better service/support. I will pay a higher price for a press with higher resale. I will pay a higher price for a press with USA manufacturing backing it. I will keep jobs in the USA when I can.

2 wooooooo Lawds and a big AMEN to that Brandt!!

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GraphicDisorder wrote:
I will take my parts when I need them, not later. I will take my service when I need it, not later. I will pay a higher price for better service/support. I will pay a higher price for a press with higher resale. I will pay a higher price for a press with USA manufacturing backing it. I will keep jobs in the USA when I can.

We should make this into a New M&R ad. Just saying.

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We should make this into a New M&R ad. Just saying.

Poster boy :p

vicb wrote:
As seldom as we have needed parts on our M&R equipment, I don't see that as a real issue. As long as phone support from the tech dept doesn't change, I see no problems. It might be something to consider. I'm sure you guys can tell which parts should be readily available and which parts would require a wait.

The machines built in Poland are not the same as here. Technical phone support would be one or two people at best as they would have to be trained and running on a completely different system. M&R Poland is a different Corp.

jmd wrote:
We should keep this a SRoque thread to be fair.

I agree. I will refrain from posting in this one.

sellerbuyer wrote:
Robert Barnes of Mustang Printers lying again!

Why do you think he's doing it? To drive away sales from SRoque? Very unethical and probably illegal.

I wonder how CustomizedPrintables will defend Barnes this time.

Thats funny...I never realized I was trying to defend Barnes. Glad you know what I am doing better than I do or else I would be lost.

One thing I will say about sRoque is that on all machines I not only look but listen and feel the machine, this tells something of a machines engineering and set-up and if anything is knocking, vibration, resistance etc. One thing is you cannot judge all machines by viewing one or two, but the sRoques Ive seen had been setup for over three years, and they ran so smooth at speed with virtually no feel of resistance or vibration. Only machines I have felt as smooth were MHM, Schenk and TAS. With reflection I also think there is perhaps something to do with the weight of the machines and the heavier ones are more absorbent. Smoother running machines in theorey should print smoother and wear less than something running rough, so in turn maybe also less maintenance and longer lifespan as well. Now this would also be the setup engineers, but also machining, components (using pepsi cans for shims?) weight, gearing, quality of build. Anyway sRoque is a machine definitely worth considering. They may not be innovative with leading features of their own but they certainly look at schenk and MHM and adapt similar at a cheaper build. I think they have a 12 colour for about $60k....
One machine I am in love with of sRoque you can see by looking at youtube under keywords sroque umbrella printer. That looks like a money maker as a dedicated machine!

First however is a tee shirt printer and for that I am wanting Mustang 12/14 or CIII 10/12.

What if we find out later that you all are being played by Uncle Larry?

Buy sRoque machines, you know who wants you to!

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inkman996 wrote:
Strange you don't post. A picture of the header of this document hmmm.

I think it has something to do with M&R filing Federal Lawsuits, but it could have something to do with you signing affidavits LOL

Barnes wants you to buy lots of sRoque machines :p :p :p

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Joao? Are you referring to the son of Joaquim?

Btw, Manuel is the principle owner, he calls the shots, but doesn't speak English LOL

12 color 14 station Basic $113k with the all over pallets LOL

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Uncle Larry wrote:

What if we find out later that you all are being played by Uncle Larry?

Buy sRoque machines, you know who wants you to!

Is that John Felps??

Looks like him.

squeegee wrote:
Is that John Felps??

Looks like him.

LOLs

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Uncle Larry wrote:

What if we find out later that you all are being played by Uncle Larry?

Buy sRoque machines, you know who wants you to!

Where you hiding the cheeseburger?

squeegee wrote:
Where you hiding the cheeseburger?

When Barnes was in Federal Prison he hid his cheeseburger between his cell mates buns LOL

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Fix it for you!

GraphicDisorder wrote:
Looks like you are still picking at your face and EATING thescabs.

Barnes is a cannibal LOL

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inkman996 wrote:
Strange you don't post. A picture of the header of this document hmmm.

Because Robert Barnes of Mustang Printers is all smoke and mirrors. You won't get straight answers from him, just spin!