Ricoma, any thoughts??

Hey all,
I am looking for a single head machine to buy very soon. I have been to the classified section many times. I really like the Brother/Baby lock machine, however the sewing field seems to be to small for my needs. The Ricoma machine seems to be priced about the same, with a much larger sewing field. Question is, I cant find many reviews or testimonials to thier product. Any help, useage, feedback would be appreciated.
Matt

Location: 
United States

Hello Guys,
My wife is considering to buy one Ricoma,
So here I am to ask for an advice, and i would appreciate to receive one especially from those how are since a while here.

We do little volumes of embroidery and mostly unique designs, and for this we bought bernina 530 with embroidery module one year ago. (we did something like 2M stitches in a year)
However the volumes were a bit to big for household machine, so we've decided to go for industrial embroidery machine and software for "digitizing" pictures.

Our budget is 10k$ and we live in Ukraine (Market of used machines is not big in here)

So we got following options:
1)
We buy Ricoma 1501pt for 7500$ (i'm kinda worried about the support we shall get in Ukraine on this one)
2)
Or we shall look for the machine you can suggest within the budget.

Thank you in advance for your advices.
I will be happy to bring more clarifications if there is need.
Kind regards,

Myroslav

We bought one two heads Ricoma Embroidery Machine, only ran almost 50 hours, then something wrong, the speed was slow, wrong location stitched, tried to contact Frank Ma to settlle an agreement to return it or change another one, but never answer me. So I suggest the people to buy the SWF, Brother or Tajima brand, they are good.This is my stupid decision to put $15000 on RICOMA

I bought a Toyota 850 used, works great. look into buying used from the companies that make them, that way, you can still get possible training and support.
Mainly, when buying a machine, find out what machines have close support and repair people.

For me is been good, I just order 2 head
Vision print is my shop
we are located in west Palm beach FL
Customer support been great,.any questions l have had, just call my seller rep,.he.pass to support team,.then they call me or email me the answer

icrsigns wrote:
We bought one two heads Ricoma Embroidery Machine, only ran almost 50 hours, then something wrong, the speed was slow, wrong location stitched, tried to contact Frank Ma to settlle an agreement to return it or change another one, but never answer me. So I suggest the people to buy the SWF, Brother or Tajima brand, they are good.This is my stupid decision to put $15000 on RICOMA

Dear @icrsigns I apologize for this inconvenience you are having with the machine. Have you contacted one of our dedicated technicians at our headquarters in Miami, FL? I am sure they will be able to assist you in any issues you may have. Please email them service@ricoma.us or by phone 305.418.4421.

You can also contact me directly miguel@ricoma.us

Thank you

Yes I have a Ricoma for the first machine I swear nothing but problems almost $2,000.00 in repairs machine still not running as other machine definitely wouldn't refer my blind dog to this company and company doesn't stand behind there work repairs last maybe a week before the same problem occurs

I personally drove this machine from Atlantic City New Jersey all the way to Florida they fixed machine it worked maybe 10days if that but they come here tonAtlantic City I asked if they can come pass my. Haines which wasn't 3/4blocks away but I traveled 1700miles 19hours with Ricoma Machine what type businessman are you guys then offer me $1,000 for my machine

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Jermaine I wish you had researched and found this thread BEFORE buying your Ricoma. What research DID you do? To help others who are reading this, what did you look at before making the decision to purchase an embroidery machine? What helped you or steered you towards this particular machine? Hopefully they will fix the issues you are currently having but I am more concerned about what makes someone go down this path to begin with?

Modern Embroidery Designer
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Is the Ricoma brand sold under different names as well? Just wanting to know what to look out for. I heard that one company makes this embroidery machine, rebrand it and sell it to different customers.

As a 24 year service tech for just about every brand of embroidery machines. I no longer work on any brand of Chinese brand of embroidery machine. It's just to hard trying to find parts that fit or better yet work when you do find them. Customers expect top notch service from me. I have build a very loyal customer base In these years and working on the Chinese brand started to effect my long standing reputation. If I can tell you any words of advice take the money you were going to spend on a Chinese machine and find a used Barudan or Tajima, Toyota 9000, or 9100 The money you think your saving on a chinese machine will be spent on repairs and parts. You will come out ahead of the game spending and little more now. Remember pay me now or pay me later. Always always always check with a independent tech before you buy any machine. It.s like talking to a good auto repairman. You never know he/she may know of a customer that has something that fits you needs that he can give his stamp of approval to.

Scott Marshall
Southern Exposure Technical Service

770-917-8825 (Office) 770-330-9869 (Mobile) 770-917-0077 (Fax) suthexpo@aol.com

Barudan, Tajima, SWF, Toyota
Certified Embroidery Machine Monger

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I know I am late coming into the party, but they have not changed and neither has their product... It's still trash and does not do as promised.:mad::mad::mad:

Do not purchase... They were going to take it back and until they do I will let everyone know the trash they sold me.

If you are going to buy a used machine, buy one that you know the most about or have the most experience running/troubleshooting yourself. It will cost you too much in the end to get a tech. to come out to your place to fix it or ship it somewhere to get fixed. You will end up losing money in the process so it isn't worth it. It is like a car....get a machine that has a good reputation, easily able to get parts, easy to fix yourself. If you have a nice car but the parts are expensive, not easily available when you are in a bind(machines always tend to go down during a rush order) and no one but the dealer can fix it, it is not worth it in the end....

Just one more thing to add. I had an issue with my machine I couldn't figure out, so I contacted the closest emb. tech. to come to my place. He wanted me to pay for his transportation, his overnight stay at a hotel, and labor. I was lucky in the end I was able to figure out the issue so I was able to cancel the tech. in time. Otherwise it would have costed me an arm and a leg. You have to think of the long term picture when buying a machine not just the upfront cost.

Jermaine wrote:
Yes I have a Ricoma for the first machine I swear nothing but problems almost $2,000.00 in repairs machine still not running as other machine definitely wouldn't refer my blind dog to this company and company doesn't stand behind there work repairs last maybe a week before the same problem occurs

Jermaine, our technicians have gone through the troubleshooting procedures with you yesterday and have determined that the main motor driver board would need to be replaced to fix the issue you are experiencing, and we apologize that the main motor did not fix the issue previously but at least it allowed us to rule out the motor as a potential problem. From our understanding, you mentioned after our troubleshooting procedures with you that you did not want to proceed with replacing the boards that we recommended, but please do let us know if the situation has changed so we can help assist you further. Thank you.

I used to be the production manager for a large embroiderer in Brisbane.
My boss who is Chinese decided to purchase a 6 Head Feiya from China.
Feiya is the same company that builds the RICOMA machine. RICOMA is
the OEM version.
For a while he was even promoting this equipment.
Fortunately we quickly realised although the price was great, the quality of
the machine was terrible. The quality that the machine produced was woeful.
The entire exercise was a complete and utter disaster.
We eventually dumped the machine to free up space.
Never again would I ever purchase a CHINESE embroidery machine.

That's exactly what I'm hoping for. I just referred to as them and apparently their aid marketers in that dept are currently in a assembly. The person I spoke with has arranged for a name again for loan. I will file again here with what takes place.

:rolleyes: Maintenance Tool Box for Ricoma = Dupont Dissembly Master Tool = DYNAMITE WITH A 90 SECOND FUSE TO LET YOU GET AWAY FROM THE BLAST RADIUS !! ;) :D

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uh.... stay away....

i personally know several people who bought the machine and have had nothing but problems. from powerpacks to mother boards to circuit boards.... it seems to be electrical issues not mechanical. i am sure they will get them figured out at some point but right now i would not recommend buying it.

also, i have heard that they are not giving the support they promise.

use caution....

Have a great day! :)

Nathan Harrison
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i bought a six head ricoma in six month the main shaft broke is workin now but not the good is a 2006 still workin

now i have electrical problems stops in the middle of a rum i have to turn off in back on

I would personally stay with either Barudan or Tajima ... Preferably Barudan.

Jackler wrote:
Hey all,
I am looking for a single head machine to buy very soon. I have been to the classified section many times. I really like the Brother/Baby lock machine, however the sewing field seems to be to small for my needs. The Ricoma machine seems to be priced about the same, with a much larger sewing field. Question is, I cant find many reviews or testimonials to thier product. Any help, useage, feedback would be appreciated.
Matt

Matt I have a ricoma embroidery machine. I would not recomend getting one, if someone told you, you could have it, if you would come get it out of there way. My problems are electrical, the machine cuts off in the middle of sewing when you restart the design it moves the register, customer support sucks, they will talk to you but have not got a clue whats wrong. They don't honor there warranty. When I called they told me they never heard of one doing what mine is doing but apparently they lied if other people have them doing the same thing.

I would seriously suggest you to not go for ricoma just looking at the price. Take my word on it. Ricoma buyers have had nothing but troubles. Their hardware is not durable whereas the software is giving people serious troubles. Even their warranties are worthless. I would rather suggest you to look into a toyota or happy voyager for your needs. Your money will be well spent this way,

Doya Arif wrote:
I would seriously suggest you to not go for ricoma just looking at the price. Take my word on it. Ricoma buyers have had nothing but troubles. Their hardware is not durable whereas the software is giving people serious troubles. Even their warranties are worthless. I would rather suggest you to look into a toyota or happy voyager for your needs. Your money will be well spent this way,

It looks like maybe RiCOMA had a bad reputation years ago, my experience has been absolutely great, I own an embroidery / Screen Printing shop and I started with a two head 2 years ago and I just bought another 4 Head machine. First, it was a very smooth transaction, the training for both of the machines was a great experience, the trainer showed me all the steps and explained all the questions I had, customer service after i had the machine was + +. it exceed my expectations.

I think its the same when buying a car, if you treat it right, it will last forever!
I did my research before i bought a RiCOMA and take my word. they have come a long way with new innovations that other brands don't have.

Mark

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Embroidery King wrote:
It looks like maybe RiCOMA had a bad reputation years ago, my experience has been absolutely great, I own an embroidery / Screen Printing shop and I started with a two head 2 years ago and I just bought another 4 Head machine. First, it was a very smooth transaction, the training for both of the machines was a great experience, the trainer showed me all the steps and explained all the questions I had, customer service after i had the machine was + +. it exceed my expectations.

I think its the same when buying a car, if you treat it right, it will last forever!
I did my research before i bought a RiCOMA and take my word. they have come a long way with new innovations that other brands don't have.

Mark

What innovations might those be?

BSP embroidery in CA. I purchased a Ricoma 15 needle a few months ago and I love it. Ricoma has great service and training. After our purchase we received on line training as well as two full days at their location in Miami Fl. We also log into the free web training every week. RICOMA values me as a customer. Like all equipment you get out of it what you put into it. Do the preventable maint. Needle changes and keep your machine clean and oiled and you will find that your Ricoma will run with any other on the market. I own this machine to make a profit and it is doing exactly what I exspedted. Thank you Ricoma.
BSP embroidery:):)

I own a RiCOMA 15 needles touchscreen rcm-1501ts and by far, it is very simple to use and quality is great! I am 63 yrs old and I needed the easiest machine possible. RiCOMA stuff have been always very helpful and understandable. My Husband looked at a few other machines and we feel we did the perfect decision!

Custom quilt & Monogramming of Tennessee
Jennifer Jones

minimalist wrote:
Cheerleaders galore with no posts waxing poetic about substandard chinese junk.

Have you owned a RiCOMA machine?

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Jenn wrote:
Have you owned a RiCOMA machine?

Why would I want to? Ricoma is like insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I also need the machine to work, that's why I'm a barudan and zsk shop.

Let's examine the chinese engineering effort. They take an embroidery machine apart and then duplicate the parts and call it xyz. While doing so they figure out how to make changes to certain parts lowering the cost to produce. Why heat treat that part, those springs don't need to be tempered, we can use plastic instead of steel or aluminum and so on.

You're machine can hum along at first but I'll put your new ricoma against a 18 year old zsk, barudan, or tajima and guess who's machine will still be running and have value?

minimalist wrote:
Why would I want to? Ricoma is like insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I also need the machine to work, that's why I'm a barudan and zsk shop.

Let's examine the chinese engineering effort. They take an embroidery machine apart and then duplicate the parts and call it xyz. While doing so they figure out how to make changes to certain parts lowering the cost to produce. Why heat treat that part, those springs don't need to be tempered, we can use plastic instead of steel or aluminum and so on.

You're machine can hum along at first but I'll put your new ricoma against a 18 year old zsk, barudan, or tajima and guess who's machine will still be running and have value?

Dear minimalist
We appreciate your comments. If you do a little more research, you will find that RiCOMA is the only company in the industry that is headquartered in the US and owns its manufacturing base in China. You may have seen in the US market that some other machines from China come and go. But only RiCOMA stays here and is still going strong. Why? Because we care about the quality, service and support to our customers. It is simply not true that all the machines from China have the same quality. We have our own R&D and quality control. We have also developed the developed the world’s first ALL-IN-ONE embroidery machine with unique and special features such as:

1. Built-in full digitizing software in the touch screen system
2. Instant online support
3. Preset hoops. Operators will NEVER hit the frames again.

If we were duplicating some other company as you claimed, why would other companies have not achieved this? Our products have been featured in trade publications such as Stitches Magazine and Printwear Magazine. Right now RiCOMA is widely distributed in over 60 countries worldwide. Other brands of machines made in China and distributed in the US are not even close. We are proud of what we are offering to our customers worldwide and will continue to develop the new technology for the industry.

Seeing is believing. We would welcome you or anyone else to stop by at any trade show all over the world so we can show you our products and services and how we are making the impact in the industry. We have been in this business long enough to understand what our customers’ needs are and will always make our best efforts to meet their needs. Our company and our president, Frank Ma, have been named one of the 75 most influential companies and people in the industry two years in a row in 2011 and 2012. Here are the links to review.
http://www.stitches-digital.com/publication/frame.php?i=134836&p=&pn=&ver=flex Page 49
http://www.stitches-digital.com/publication/frame.php?i=90011&p=&pn=&ver=flex Page 46

Should you or anyone else have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at 1-888-292-6282 or email to info@ricoma.us.

Best Regards
Miguel Ciarreta
Sales & Marketing Director
305-418-4421
miguel@ricoma.us

Ricoma International wrote:
Dear minimalist
We appreciate your comments. If you do a little more research, you will find that RiCOMA is the only company in the industry that is headquartered in the US and owns its manufacturing base in China. You may have seen in the US market that some other machines from China come and go. But only RiCOMA stays here and is still going strong. Why? Because we care about the quality, service and support to our customers. It is simply not true that all the machines from China have the same quality. We have our own R&D and quality control. We have also developed the developed the world’s first ALL-IN-ONE embroidery machine with unique and special features such as:

1. Built-in full digitizing software in the touch screen system
2. Instant online support
3. Preset hoops. Operators will NEVER hit the frames again.

If we were duplicating some other company as you claimed, why would other companies have not achieved this? Our products have been featured in trade publications such as Stitches Magazine and Printwear Magazine. Right now RiCOMA is widely distributed in over 60 countries worldwide. Other brands of machines made in China and distributed in the US are not even close. We are proud of what we are offering to our customers worldwide and will continue to develop the new technology for the industry.

Seeing is believing. We would welcome you or anyone else to stop by at any trade show all over the world so we can show you our products and services and how we are making the impact in the industry. We have been in this business long enough to understand what our customers’ needs are and will always make our best efforts to meet their needs. Our company and our president, Frank Ma, have been named one of the 75 most influential companies and people in the industry two years in a row in 2011 and 2012. Here are the links to review.
http://www.stitches-digital.com/publication/frame.php?i=134836&p=&pn=&ver=flex Page 49
http://www.stitches-digital.com/publication/frame.php?i=90011&p=&pn=&ver=flex Page 46

Should you or anyone else have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at 1-888-292-6282 or email to info@ricoma.us.

Best Regards
Miguel Ciarreta
Sales & Marketing Director
305-418-4421
miguel@ricoma.us

Hey Miguel,
It's about time Ricoma started making an attempt to fix their industry perception. Unfortunately, they can NOT fix the past, and for must here, THAT is the Ricoma we all know and hate. The first handfull of years of product shipped here were trash no matter what you want to dispute here. There are many wide ranging causes and or flaws with those machines (versus a top knotch Tajima/Barudan/ZSK machine), and I have had the unfortunate task of trying to make one of those machines run properly at ANY speed over 500 SPM.

I'm glad to see that Ricome is really trying to make the effort to make a top notch machine for the industrial market. Prove all us old gheezers wrong. We welcome your efforts.

Jamie Malerman

minimalist wrote:
Why would I want to? Ricoma is like insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I also need the machine to work, that's why I'm a barudan and zsk shop.

Let's examine the chinese engineering effort. They take an embroidery machine apart and then duplicate the parts and call it xyz. While doing so they figure out how to make changes to certain parts lowering the cost to produce. Why heat treat that part, those springs don't need to be tempered, we can use plastic instead of steel or aluminum and so on.

You're machine can hum along at first but I'll put your new ricoma against a 18 year old zsk, barudan, or tajima and guess who's machine will still be running and have value?

I agree TOTAL I have been a machine tech for 25 years I started my own Embroidery business one year ago I own 1 Ricoma 6 head RCM-1206C-H. I bought from a family member who owned an embroidery business and her operators was scared of it and wow every order i run I have to work on it support leaves ALOT to be desired I all so own a BARUDAN BEAT IV single head that must be 30 years old it is a given Barudan head and shoulders above Ricoma and i would gladly show up to a show and argue the point !
Especially over the support.

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thank you Miguel... but unfortunately your company is like Kmart or even JC Penny now... once you have a certain rep it is VERY hard to change that. JCPenny is struggling.. but they already have a rep.. they cannot be equated to nordstroms or even macys.. the damage is done. it just takes years... and even then, good luck.

Modern Embroidery Designer
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Miguel,

How would you like to address the other posters who have problems with Ricoma machines?

sinar

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megamosto

I never stated that Ricoma takes machines apart for duplication. What I said is that the chinese have a history of taking machines apart and attempting to duplicating them. If Ricoma is engineering their own machines as you have said, then more power to them. What I would like to see on Ricoma's part is to address the users and purchasers on this forum to rectify their issues.

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minimalist wrote:
Miguel,
What I would like to see on Ricoma's part is to address the users and purchasers on this forum to rectify their issues.

They popped on here one day in 2010 and then nearly three years later to post on this thread... Something tells me they aren't into holding a conversation and addressing the issues.

Modern Embroidery Designer
volant-tech.com
volantfineart.com

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Robert Young wrote:
They popped on here one day in 2010 and then nearly three years later to post on this thread... Something tells me they aren't into holding a conversation and addressing the issues.

Putting out fires is hard but can be done. If you let them burn unattended they spread.

Many thanks to the folks who have talked about RiCOMA on this forum. We are dedicated to providing the best customer service and support to our customers worldwide. If you have any issues with your machine, or just a technical question, our factory trained and certified technical staff is ready to help at any time.

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Oh, and Miguel, FULL punching on a machine is almost worthless to a serious digitizer/operator. I'd love to see someone demo THAT feature....

Nemodogdad wrote:
Oh, and Miguel, FULL punching on a machine is almost worthless to a serious digitizer/operator. I'd love to see someone demo THAT feature....

You can also connect an external monitor, mouse & keyboard to the machine and work separately if you want to.

Please take a look at one of the videos for this touch screen machine:

RiCOMA 15 Needles All-In-One Embroidery Machine with Touch Screen & Digitizing Software - YouTube

MC

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I like your story LRick.. but WHY would someone who has been a machine tech for as long as you say , 25 yrs, agree to purchase the Ricoma machines? did you never deal with them in 25 years? I mean did you just put 25 years of time in or did you actually work on machines on a weekly basis and understand them? (you cannot say you do because even a cursory inspection and trial time with them would have alerted someone with your experience to RUN , not walk , away from those machines)

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Please don’t buy it. I have friends that own them and nothing but headaches. Speak with a machine tech, and they can give you good advice. I was told to stay away from the chinese machines

There good machines you just need to understand them and embroidery. Don't thing there just a plug and play machine and once you buy it your going to instantly start making money nope that's not how it works. Also don't learn to digitize if your new cuz is go take more time to get use to the machine and auto digitize is not it.