By Robert Young on
Oct. 23, 2012
I think the number one clarification we have to ask for designs we are sent to digitize is ...... "Is the logo solid embroidery or 1 color outline only?" or put another way "Do the white areas within the art get thread or do you want the fabric to show through? "
the answer I just got back from one client was: "I think it will look best as part solid embroidery.".
UH?????
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
Thats the way its supposed to be sent but there are only a few customers like you who go out of their way to do that. Also some embroiderers do not have the graphic knowledge to put a background on an artwork or they could have received a jpeg image.
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
This was an interesting blog by Erich Cambell about dimensional embroidery. I think this is what Robert was talking about.
http://www.asipublications.com/Stitches/OnLinksAndNeedlesBlogPost.aspx?id=6356
I always find Erich's blogs useful.
Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
Thanks for the clarification and the link.
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I would always ask them if the white part is going to be stitch out or if its going to be blank? Then they would understand. It's what we asked them. We have to understand that the customer is not the artist so they don't comprehend. We have to also understand that the blank part is part of the design too.
Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
Are you speaking of background fill? I always state either to fill the background or not to fill background.
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no I am talking about white areas within a design.. or any areas within a design that match whatever the background color is...
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
It is interesting in the example shown in the article that Eric saw the lady on the left as having a specific hair style, where when I look at the art I see her wearing a hat. There is the issue.. we don't KNOW what the client sees or expects most of the time... so it can be a gamble. (my hat would be an Inspector Clouseau type ... think Pink Panther... which around here is a new fashion statement for women in dresses to wear.)
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Hate such clients....they think they know everything and when you ask them to clarify themselves they take it as an insult or blame you for delaying their order.
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
when you get a silhoutte design to digitize, do you put in a plain simple fill in one direction or do you put in definition?
or is it our duty as a digitizer to again do the homework on behalf of the customer to ask them how they want it?
I just did one yesterday and put in definition without asking and according to me thats a better looking design but the client came back and told me they want a plain fill.... is this my mistake that I didnt ask or clients mistake that they didnt mention? I didnt charge them again for the new design but have noted on my end that this client doesnt provide adequate info and continous negligence on their part will force me to raise their rate.
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
this can be tricky too.. with standard lead times as short as they are nowadays... any clarification like this can be seen as a digitizer's way of delaying an order or at least delaying the start of the clock. But if you dont ask up front and you pick the wrong answer then you are delaying the order anyway because it comes back to you and you get to do EXTRA work now...
On the one color design and adding details it just depends for me... if it is a horse and rider for example I will do just solid plain fill as I am not confident enough in my ability to separate the legs or saddle from a solid black area. But if the design is such that adding dimension could be an obvious choice then I will do it just to keep myself entertained... more fun than just tracing a shape.
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
Funny, I am just the opposite. If it is an animal I will do detail in the silhouette but things like cars etc... I just do the shape.
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Robert,
Can you post a pic of what you are talking about?
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I agree with you Robert, I saw a hat not hair...
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He could have easily separated a hat element in the stitching as easily as the hair style, me personally I see a hat and think a hat would have looked truer to the original logo type. But that is something the custy would have to point out when a proof was submitted.
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I will do... the next order that has art like that I will post
Modern Embroidery Designer
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Re: Outline only or Solid Embroidery?
All files I send I put a square off color behind the logo. Then specify that is substrate color. Never had a problem with doing it that way yet.