eps Woes... (again)

Submitted by Worn Id on Wed, 05/27/2009 - 18:31
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OK, so I am really frustrated!

I am still experiencing problems with eps files and importing them into my corel draw! last week I had an image that was sent to me in a jpeg form, so I explained that I needed an eps file. They gave me one. When I imported it into Corel, it was still merely a bitmap. Fortunately, it was a one color design, so I traced the bitmap and inverted the colors so I could get the image we would need to make the shirts they wanted.
Not so easy this time, this is a 3 color piece and once again the eps file that they sent to me, is nothing more than a bitmap when I bring it into Corel!! It has a lot of shadow and some really cool effects that I don't even want to start recreating!!
Any ideas on why I am having troubles with this?? Is it how they were originally created and in what program? Or is Corel just being a pain in my @$$ right now!

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I have a little over two weeks... but I also have other thing due at that same time, so we have to get rolling!!

Thanks again gang!!
Laurie :)

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tompainesbones

Sat, 05/30/2009 - 09:01

An eps is a container, it can contain bitmaps or vectors. Maybe the image isn't suitable for spot colours and you need 4-colour? Can you post a picture?

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Worn Id

Mon, 06/01/2009 - 13:38

I actually learned why it wouldn't work... after a good hour of trouble shooting and spening the last 15-20 minutes on the Corel site I found this:

Usually, EPS files are vectorial, but there's also a EPS file that is not a vector, is a special photo file made with Photoshop (for example, for creating a duotone, or for creating a photo with transparent background) and there's no chance to modify it.

The gal who created the image did so in Photo Shop!
Thus this is WHY I couldn't get it to cooperate no matter what I did!
I actually did however find the font, recreated that part of the image and then found a very similar image to replace another image on the page and it turned out really good!

I love the challenge, and really don't mind recreating artwork...
my bosses however think I could be using my time more efficently! :P

Thanks Dave for your inqury.

Laurie :)

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tompainesbones

Tue, 06/02/2009 - 03:40

Well done.
Try putting a picture, some text and some vectors on a page and saving as an eps, the eps tag doesn't tell you much about the contents at all.

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Worn Id

Tue, 06/02/2009 - 10:33

Yeah! Talk about learning the hard way! :P

Thanks for the input!

-Laurie :)

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Worn Id

Wed, 06/03/2009 - 12:40

LOL! I got another one today...

but it was a simple one color logo that I could trace (the bitmap) and pull out the unneccessary curves... :P

I love my job!! (most the time :))
Laurie

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tompainesbones

Wed, 06/03/2009 - 17:46

Charge for your time.

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Worn Id

Thu, 06/04/2009 - 12:20

I have started to... before we have not. We have no artcharge or set up fee for our screen printing. But, after spending almost 3 hours recreating somthing I told my bosses that I/we can't be doing a job like that and not charging them for it. So if I am recreating anything and it takes me more than 30 minutes... we charge!

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directioneast

Fri, 06/05/2009 - 23:05

I learned on Corel with PC and todays world Ai is more prominent. I now know CS3 Ai on mac and PC, I still use Corel Draw 99% of the time, mostly for SEPS. What I suggest is this.
What version Corel do you have? Also tell people to save their work as Legacy 3. This will atleast import into CDR9 with the least problems. There are definitely some problems with transparencies and gradient conversions. Recreating work is something I do alot, but I have learned that if you can learn the other programs, it will save you time on importing and recreating. The learning curve is huge going from Corel to Ai, but in the end, it comes down to the user. Lesson I have learned is don't be stuck in your ways, always find an easier way to get the job done, after all the client will never know how much work really goes into the art prep. Tell them if they use PSD or Ai, to put each color on its own layer. They never do that, but if you tell them, that will save you the time right there.

christian68

Sat, 06/06/2009 - 21:00

Hi! I just joined this site looking for dye cutters and stumble onto your woe. I find it better if you can get the image PDF. Its much easier to handle. What I am not sure of is if Corel Draw can handle PDF files.

tompainesbones

Sun, 06/07/2009 - 05:10

eps and pdf are pretty similar formats, both are based upon the Postscript language. There won't be much difference between them.

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jmimageworks

Mon, 06/15/2009 - 15:18

That why our company states that if they want to avoid an artchage it must be a Vector file. nota jpg saved as a eps. or a psd imported into illustrator then saved as an AI file. We have been here a long time and its funny the things a customer will do to try to bypass the art fee with subpar art. Since Vector was defined on our website as a editable outline file a customer said he was providing his own art....he showed up with a crude outline drawing on paper and demanded no art charges since he was "providing" his art work....sigh... anyway most customers have been fine with the $35 an hour art charge. most times its only 1 hour we charge even if it takes a little more.

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tompainesbones

Tue, 06/16/2009 - 04:02

Pdf is just a cut down version of the Postscript language, you can have the same s**t in a pdf file as you can in an eps file.

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